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by blouderback
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

IMHO, the fact that the ball must be catchable is moot. If the catcher is in the vicinity of the plate, and he/she has the right to be there (not blocking the plate), AND the ball arrives just before/after or at the same time as the runner, it shouldn't matter if it's catchable. We're trying to prot...
by blouderback
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:35 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

I just want the rule to be more clear, because I feel that umpires are not applying it consistently. Some people say the ball has to be catchable, some say not. I don't care that much either way, let's just make the rule clear.

P.S. Kristen, it's not BS.
by blouderback
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

sixofdiamonds wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:08 amI give up.
Don't give up! Just add the word "catchable" to the rule as I suggested a while back.
by blouderback
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Respectfully, we're trying to protect the catcher and the runner. Why would we care where the ball is? If the catcher is "in the vicinity" of the plate, and has a right to be "in the vicinity" (not blocking it), then the rule should apply regardless if the ball is catchable or no...
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

That's fine, please just change the rule so that everyone knows that the ball must be "catchable", and then I guess we have to define what THAT means.
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

I guess what I'm trying to say is, most of the time the runner makes up his/her mind to slide/surrender before the ball is even thrown. For example, in the scenario I posted above about having to chug all the way from 1st to home one time, I looked at where the fielder was and the fact that he was a...
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Its completely asinine that you want to eliminate the "catchable ball" factor tho. I never said I wanted to eliminate it. I'm saying it's not in the rule so it shouldn't be a factor. If Les wants to put it in the rule, then I'm fine with that, he should do it, otherwise, umpires should ad...
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:51 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

One other point Bob... I know I'm crossing sports here, but take Pass Interference in football. There is no penalty if the ball is uncatchable. The ball has to be catchable in order for the flag to be thrown. I'm OK with changing the rule to say that the ball has to be catchable. That's not in the ...
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Question... this is just a fun side not... do you think more people have been hurt in collisions at home plate or trying to hold home plate. I personally think the sliding on fields like LUKENS 3 Or the Quarrys Merca Mat have caused more injuries than collisions but I'd like to hear from the field....
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:08 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

On a side note, I wish that GIF you posted showed the umpire's call. IMHO, I think the runner was safe, due to the catcher tagging him with his empty glove (the ball was in his hand and it doesn't look like he tug him with his hand).
by blouderback
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:45 am
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Looks like the catcher is still in the vicinity as defined by our rule, so, other than a good suggestion to keep the catcher safe, I don't see how this works into our conversation. In my original scenario I posted about last Sunday, the catcher was, in fact, in front of the plate, and only stepped o...
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

sixofdiamonds wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:45 pm Geez, Bob. Lighten up.
I am lightened up! I said LOL.
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

So I get that you're not going to eliminate the rule. That's fine. Please add the wording to the rule that explicitly states the ball must be catchable, and then I guess we have to define what "catchable" means. You already promised to make sure umpires are aware of the rule and the import...
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

‘General vicinity’ shall mean within a couple feet of the plate. The catchable argument was brought up by the umpire who made the call. I think what he meant by that was the ball wasn't in the vicinity. That's all. I think you're splitting hairs here. Catchable is stated nowhere in the rule. The um...
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

OK, that's fine. If that's the rule, then please make the change so it's reflected in the rules document. Perhaps something like this: "'About to receive the ball’ shall refer to any instance where a catchable ball arrives immediately before, at the same time, or immediately after the base runn...
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Thanks for re-posting the rule, Les. I still don't see ANYTHING about the ball being "catchable", nor do I see anything that states that the BALL" needs to be "in the vicinity".
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Ben, A throw 10' up 1st base line is NOT arriving at home plate. An "uncatchable" ball 2 or 3 feet off target, or even 5 feet over the catcher's head, still DOES arrive at home plate. Please take the "catachable" argument out of it, the rule says nothing about the ball being catc...
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

Please show me in the rule where it states that the ball needs to be in the vicinity of home plate. Let me save you some time, It doesn't. As far as location, it only talks about the FIELDER being in the vicinity of the plate, and TIMING of when the ball arrives.
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

I don't care about the ball. The rule states that the FIELDER is there, about to receive the ball.
by blouderback
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Administrative
Topic: FIX THIS RULE! (please)
Replies: 77
Views: 45425

Re: FIX THIS RULE! (please)

"'Play at the plate' shall refer to any instance where a fielder is ‘about to receive the ball’." And I know you do not believe that a ball headed to the parking lot is being received by the catcher. The only thing the catcher should care about at that moment is: 1. Who's car or person is...